Whether you’re looking to break into the editing field, or just learn more about the so-called gatekeepers of the traditional publishing world, it’s always good to know more about what happens behind the scenes.
As a reminder, acquiring editors work for the publishing houses and are the ones who actually make those large-figured book deals — in addition to revising and editing manuscripts.
At WorldCon 2019’s “Editors’ panel: Challenges and Anecdotes”, I got to hear industry veterans Michael Rowley, Eleanor Teasdale, Ginjer Buchanan, John R. Douglas, and David Thomas Moor talk about their experiences.
The Strangest Part of the Job
When you’re doing it right, they pay you. – John R. Douglas
The need to cheerleader in-house to sell the book you’re working. – Ginjer Buchanan
The job is to find joy and passion and beauty and personality. And edit it out. Then, digest the book down to a single line. – David Thomas Moor.
The Biggest Challenges
Authors who don’t want to take edits
Usually – they don’t want to
Occasionally – they try to counter-argue the grammar or the rhythm, etc.
When you give your heart and soul and rah-rah to a book and it just didn’t work out. (Thanks to timing, a bad cover, or just fate).
The book(s) you didn’t get — that end up best sellers.
Other divisions of the same company over-bidding you
Get told ‘no’ at the publisher’s meeting (by Marketing/Sales/etc)
Ones you passed on
Getting the right cover
John Douglas tried to win the Game of Thrones proposed series at auction, but George RR Martin accepted the deal that offered $75k in marketing, over the book deal with more upfront money.
Favorite Book They’ve Worked On
Several of the editors refused to “pick between their children”. But, we got a few answers.
Maybe Mike Brooks’s Dead Sky – Michael Rowley
John M. Ford’s The Dragon Waiting – John R. Douglas
Charlie Stross’s Halting State duology. Also, media tie in novels for Quantum Leap. She read fanzines and hired the best writers. Asked them to pitch her — the writers loved the source material and it showed. Working on that was ‘nothing but fun.’ – Ginjer Buchanan
Practical Advice On Breaking In As An Editor
Move to London or New York
Get any job at a publishing house and work your way up
Take a job at a small press to build your resume
Get a degree in English/editing
Earn the “Society of Editors and Proofreaders” certificate [UK]
Look on bookseller websites for jobs or [UK] the IPG
As with everything book or writing related, hard work and luck seems to be a large part of it.
Thanks for tuning in. I’ll be back again soon with more writing tips and writerly musings.
Flashback Post From My First PitchWars but as true as it ever was! Querying PitchWars mentors, agents, or publishers.
What To Expect After You Query
It really is just like dating…
You start by joining the Facebook groups, the twitter chats, and incessantly checking your email. Just knowing, they’re going to start #PWTeaser your novel now. Meanwhile, you’re trying to engage with the other writers in your genre and cheer them on (while not-so-secretly hoping yours is better).
Which stage are you in? What’s your coping technique?
1 – Work In Progress 2 – Hey! It’s walking, it totally counts as healthy, self-care! 3 – Because if you get in, ain’t nobody got time for that. 4- If one must read to write well, it’s really just helping yourself grow as a writer! Clearly.
Today, I’m taking a break from sharing all my writing panel notes, to talk about the fact I’m about to hit ANOTHER convention. At this rate, I’ll never finish sharing my notes with you.
By the time you see this, I’ll be about to land in Dublin with my mom! I’ve never been to Dublin and she’s never been overseas. It’s going to be an adventure!
We’re off to WorldCon. Specifically, the 77th WorldCon, in Dublin. WorldCon is where the Hugos — the biggest awards in science-fiction and fantasy writing are awarded. George RR Martin famously hosts his ‘losers’ party, for those who have been nominated, but lose. (Although, at this point, I don’t think he’s allowed to attend his own party.)
If you’ve been following me for a while, you might remember my FIRST overseas trip, two years ago, was also to WorldCon — in Helsinki! (I’ve got a lot of notes up from that one, too!)
After reading the initial panel list, I marked down about 111 panels that looked interesting. A few days later, the Grenadine App for the event came out, so I uploaded all the panels I’d marked, and everything else that looked interesting, and culled my list of panels down to… 177.
Clearly, I don’t understand the concept of limits. Besides, there are only 52 time slots, I couldn’t see them all if I wanted to.
But. This might be supposed to actually be a vacation. Not just a working convention. I’ve been reminded that I might want to… oh, I don’t know… SEE DUBLIN.
So, I’ve been culling and looking and thinking. And I’m trying to see more and do less.
Some of the panels I have on my list are because of the content, some are on because of the panelists! It’s a work in progress, but I’m down to looking at only 80 program items.
My blog’s now on Bloglovin – As always, I’m trying to be accessible everywhere. Since I keep getting referral links from here, I decided to check it out and they insisted I post this link in order to claim my blog.
I’m wrapping up revisions on Part 1 of Flesh and Ink. Should be starting Part 2 tomorrow! Yes, it’s taking much longer than hoped. But, I think it’s worth it. The updated plan is to done before NaNoWriMo. BAH!!
This past Friday, I made it to “Spilled Ink” again, a local Open Mic night for writers. I make it about every other month. Since I write long, and they like pieces to be under 8 minutes, this month, I went with my classic post: Thin Mint Conspiracy.
I’m going to be traveling a lot in July, so I’m not sure how much Camp Nano I’ll get to, but my goal is at least one pass on 100 pages. 6 down, 94 to go!
I was raised thinking I was in a post-feminism world. We had the vote, we were out there earning our own money, with our own credit cards, standing equal to any man. But, the older I get, the more I realize that the biases are still out there. They’re just softer, well-intentioned, and far more insidious.
At Balticon 53, I attended “But I’m Not A YA Writer”, with panelists Sherri Cook Woosley, Gwendolyn Clare, and Julayne Hughes, moderated by Laura Nicole “Spence” and we discussed the modern trend of calling speculative fiction books written by women “young adult” (YA).
What’s the Difference?
I have a full set of panel notes on the difference, that I’ll be sharing later, but let me sum up.
Young adult novels typically center on teenage characters, often coming-of-age, and learning how to be independent. Thinking for themselves. YA is often told in first person, and sometimes in present tense. And YA has hope.
Adult novels can have teenage characters and can be coming-of-age stories, but the characters are typically a little older, or a decent portion of the book covers their adulthood as well. The solutions are usually more nuanced and complicated, the world building is often more fleshed out, the politics and economics are more complex, and the violence can be darker. Third person point-of-view is more common and it’s typically told in past-tense.
Now, these are all trends. YA is by no means a lesser skill and certainly can deal with dark themes and violence. When trying to categorize a book, think about a 9th grader, would you recommend it to them? Or not. The line often comes down to the voice.
Who Is Misclassifying Authors’ Books
When you hear about this misclassification, many of us think we know exactly where the problem is. But. It’s not what you might think.
Is it the lack of women in the upper echelon of publishing companies?
Nope. The publishers and editors are properly categorizing them.
Is it the marketing departments?
Not really. Their marketing teams are starting off targeting the right markets…
So where is the problem?
It’s when the book blurbs hit the internet that the real disconnect comes out. The book bloggers and good citizens of GoodReads are where a large percentage of the misclassifications are made.
How is this happening?
Clearly, there are tons of factors that go into this, and no amount of speculation can encapsulate each individual’s decisions.
And? Sometimes the line can be nebulous. But not that often.
Even if one starts off looking at the book blurb, with the proper classification, and comparing it to other books in the appropriate genre during a review, these books are often getting ‘shelved’ with YA.
And the only thing that might even suggest the novel is YA? Is the author’s name, reading as feminine. Or, the author becoming widely known as female.
The 2018 critically acclaimed novel, The Poppy War, by R.F. Kuang was marketed as a drug filled, grimdark fantasy take on the war between China and Japan during World War II. The themes were dark, the voice was adult, and the book was marked down as being too violent or graphic for YA. It got tons of 1-star reviews, because the book wasn’t what the readers were expecting.
Which leads us into:
The Consequences of Being Misclassified
You get marked down for not meeting expectations
1 and 2 star reviews on Amazon and GoodReads greatly affect your sales
Your audience can’t find you.
If the real audience thinks the book is for their kids, they’re not as inclined to read it
When a story about a mother gets handed off to teen girls, the voice won’t resonate as strongly as it would with a mom
The LGBTQA community has gotten good at finding allies. At standing up for each other. There’s still push back, but they’re fighting hard to make sure their books are properly classified, not just shoved off into ‘special interest group’ or ‘adult’ sections simply because it contains characters that aren’t cis-gendered and/or heterosexual.
We can learn a lot from them.
So, how do we get around this?
The Call Of The Pseudonym
Publisher and audience biases have had women writing under pseudonyms or initials for centuries – from the Brontë Sisters, to George Eliot, to J.K. Rowling herself — women have used pen names to be more marketable. And? It seems to work.
Studies indicate, even Harry Potter might have had a harder time reaching the right audience if it came from Joanne Rowling.
Women these days, and others that don’t fit into the gender binary still succumb to these pressures. Because that’s how they make the sales to the right audience.
How Do We Fix This?
The sad news is, this isn’t something we can fix overnight. It’s not like we can print a correction in the paper and people will instantly stop. Instead, we have to help make the cultural shift. Here are some ways you can help.
Pay more attention to how the books you read are classified by the publisher
When you see a book improperly listed, think about reaching out to set the record straight
Stop assuming boys won’t read female main characters. Or female authors. Teachers, parents, librarians: If you make it a non-issue? Often, they will too.
Maybe you’re the target audience for books you’re not reading. Look at who you’re reading.
If you haven’t read a book recently by a female author, ask the internet (or me, in the comments below) for recommendations, based on your favorite male authors.
NOTE: This works for other markets – writers of color, writers of disability, LGBTQA writers, non-american writers. Branch out and see what you’re missing. Great writers can come from anywhere, but they only get the chance to shine if they can prove they have a market.
Any stories about gender bias happening to you? In any direction! Clearly, men writing in certain genres face similar issues. As, obviously, do people of other genders!
Any other suggestions on ways to help people move past their assumptions, and allow books to be enjoyed on their own merits. With marketed expectation management NOT getting overridden by cultural assumptions?
As always, thanks for tuning in, and join me again next week as I share more writing tips and writerly musings from the over 24 hours of programming I attended at Balticon53.